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Old 09-23-2007, 11:54 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Well after playing on the spawnpoint turbo gungame west #1 for awhile now I have finally decided to try and get more involved with spawnpoint comunity outside of the game. Anyone who regularly plays in that server knows me as "Syph" and I have got to know many of the people who play there regularly as well as the admins. My hope with joining the spawpoint community is to understand why things are the way they are and possibly recommend some changes to provide a better gaming experience for everyone.

Some of my biggest questions that I have on the top of my head that I am hoping someone might be able to answer or direct me to the appropriate sections are:

1. How exactly does the ranking system work? I am most interested in the way in which you receive points and what variables it looks at. For example, right now in the gungame server I can have a 4:1 Kdr going and I will still be "losing" points, even if I "win" the game there is no change in points awarded. I am hoping that someone might be able to explain this system and possibly go so far to implement a change in the way it works on gungame servers.


2. Why is there no MOTD stating the rules that are only found on the Site? I have witnessed many times when a simple rule can turn into an argument that could have been solved with a simple MOTD. For example, the "There is no camping on the roof without a scout" rule without any supporting information people do no take you seriously unless of course admins are present. "Demoing" them is a painstaking process that is not worth the effort since it is not banable material and more of a warn/slap moment. Whats the policy on MOTD?

3. Can we get RockTheVote implemented or change the way voting works now? In gungame 99% of the time when the vote list comes on, people do not look at the options since it appears midgame. What results is option 1 wins the majority of the time with people complaing about it later with no way to change it. My suggestion is to have it delayed to the start of the round or simply have a RTV command that allows everyone to choose a wider variety of maps.

4. TK punish? Is there a reason we cannot have a simple forgive/not forgive menu? there are many times when this option would be a welcome change to new users not familar with gungame nade level and tk turning on. Not to mention the different way the game plays having one less guy on the team on small maps.


That about sums up my biggest things I am curious about learning, I hope someone might be able to help me out with the reasoning behind the current state of the server. Any and all critisizm is welcome! Like I said earlier I am new to the Spawnpoint way .

Thanks to all for reading and posting your own responces!
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Old 09-24-2007, 07:10 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Welcome to the forums. I'll have a go at answering your questions.

1. http://www.spawnpoint.com/pdf/ranking.pdf The rankings system is not designed for gungame, so it doesn't take into account things like winning. There are other stats if you type !top10, !weaponme etc.

2. I'm not too sure what is going on with the MOTD. I thought it was being re-done but it's not changed for a while.

3. I really wish people would pay attention to the votes, instead of pressing any button then complaining about the map that they voted for. I have a feeling that rtv could be abused, it would be very annoying if used after the first few rounds for whoever was winning. If you could limit it's use to the first 5 mins of a map then I'd be all for it, otherwise it could be used to prevent people from winning.

4. I don't know if you can change the tk options on gg, though I don't see why not. I don't mind the tk punishment as it is, it can be a bit harsh if it's an accident but I'm ok with it. It'd have to be a limited punishment menu, no point in the take cash option and bomb punishments are just stupid. Anyone else want more tk options?

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Old 09-24-2007, 07:30 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Old 09-24-2007, 10:53 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Thanks for offering some advice here is my take on it.
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Welcome to the forums. I'll have a go at answering your questions.

1. http://www.spawnpoint.com/pdf/ranking.pdf The rankings system is not designed for gungame, so it doesn't take into account things like winning. There are other stats if you type !top10, !weaponme etc.
Yes this is true, I am not familiar with the system that they use for ranking but it would be nice to see in the future if it could be tweaked for gungame. But as for how it still records it seems broken to me. It appears that if new people to the server kill you you will lose more points then if a top 10 does for instance. It is not a big big deal right now but it gets slightly annoying to anyone that plays it competitively.

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2. I'm not too sure what is going on with the MOTD. I thought it was being re-done but it's not changed for a while.

3. I really wish people would pay attention to the votes, instead of pressing any button then complaining about the map that they voted for. I have a feeling that rtv could be abused, it would be very annoying if used after the first few rounds for whoever was winning. If you could limit it's use to the first 5 mins of a map then I'd be all for it, otherwise it could be used to prevent people from winning.
I can see that I could be abused but this would only happen if the majority of the people in the server wanted to switch the map. In my understanding without a majority or whatever it is set too, an RTV would rarely happen. Although I would also be all for no RTV say when nade level is reached. I think this would probably harder to implement then say having a large majority. But I could be wrong.

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4. I don't know if you can change the tk options on gg, though I don't see why not. I don't mind the tk punishment as it is, it can be a bit harsh if it's an accident but I'm ok with it. It'd have to be a limited punishment menu, no point in the take cash option and bomb punishments are just stupid. Anyone else want more tk options?

Don't forget to have a look around the website, plenty of things to read, watch and download.
I think that a simple tk menu with 2 options: Forgive or Don't forgive is all that is needed. It is nice to have an option to forgive or not rather then just insta slay the next round. Maybe with more support this could get implemented.


Thanks for your suggestions, and I will get on searching and reading
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