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vanilla
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Posted: Aug 13, 2008, 19:58:49
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Hi there,
Please be advised that there has been threads already made like this one.
Please do not copy and remake same threads please look down and you will find it.
I made one, and it has many hits

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Vudoo
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Posted: Aug 13, 2008, 20:28:59
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The bluray player on the PS3 is the BIGGEST thing it has as an edge over the 360. But as another poster mentioned. No one really cares.


I like how "no one really cares" about Blu-ray after it completely destroyed HD-DVD. I remember when HD-DVD was leading in sales and all the 360 kids were all excited saying that HD-DVD was better and then when it lost, they stopped "caring" about any high definition format...


Something that no one even mentioned anywhere EVER (and I have no idea why) is that the PS3 is also a DVD upscale converter. WOW all my DVD movies look REAL nice now. To be honest I see no difference whatsoever between a regular DVD and a bluray disk now. They both play at 720p (my tv is 720p/1080i). So I will not be buying any bluray disks. I will pay less for the DVD and let the upscale converter do it's work.


All I can say is that Blu-ray discs are important. Not because of capability with movies, but the pure storage capacity of the Blu-ray compared to a regular DVD. Think about it, when games become much more graphically demanding and the size of the game becomes larger do you want to buy a game with 7, 8, even 9 DVDs? Right now, Final Fantasy XIII (the most graphically demanding game I can think of right now) is coming out on one Blu-ray. How many DVDs is it coming on? 4 DVDs. Little much don't you think and that's just now, imagine 1 or 2 years from now...


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CoD4 is a prime example of that. On the PS3 it has very big crashing issues, while the 360 has seen nothing of the sort.


Yea, cause the 360 NEVER crashes for any reason at all. Those Red Rings are lies...


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Also on the 360 you put your disk in and play. On the PS3 you put your disk in THEN you have to install the game THEN you can play.


The install decreases load times during the game. Makes for smoother in-game play, either way you wait at some point. Just so happens you wait in the beginning for the PS3 and during the game for the 360...


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A plus for the PS3 - It can be used as a PC. It has an option for installing and running Linux OS. THAT IS FREAKING COOL. I am a nerd and I love such things. I put Yellow Dog Linux 6.0 on it then I tell the PS3 to Load Other OS and WHAM! I have one more PC. The PS3 has it's own internet browser...but it sux hard. It is a worse browser than my Palm TX (which is rather good for browsing.) But when you load the PS3 to the linux OS you get a much better browser.


Yup, try plugging in your mouse and keyboard into your 360, see if that does anything. :D

By the way, Blu-ray looks amazing on my 1080p. :D

SS-Midnight
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Posted: Aug 14, 2008, 06:26:29
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Heh. I can tell your a real fanboy. ;)


I am not. I go with functionality. The 360 functions better as a game player. that is why I buy my consoles. It has the inferior hardware but supior online system and support.

You tried to twist my words.


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Yea, cause the 360 NEVER crashes for any reason at all.
Correct CoD4 on the 360 DOES NOT CRASH. CoD4 on the PS3 is prone to crashing. <--- that was my point.

I did not address the RROD issue as it was brought up before. Older 360's are prone to the RROD but you get it fixed for free. You have a few weeks with now 360 as the big negative. One of my clanmates is on his 4th or 5th 360 due to the RROD. He went through 3 in 2 months. He is not a lucky one. lol. I have had my 360 or 2.5 years and never had the RROD. Lucky me.


As far as the bluray being able to hold oodles of information. That is cool/good and also not yet used. When they actually use it for something it will matter. Right now it is unused potential. They have been talking about hiw this will be good SOMEDAY since the PS3 released. Why don't they use it?

I use the same keyboard for both my PS3 and 360. The mouse only has a use on my PS3 when the linux OS is running.



Like I said it depends on what your priotity is. Mine is online gaming and the 360 wins that hands down. For playing high def movies the PS3 wins, heck for any movie playing the PS3 wins --> DVD UPSCALER FTW!!!one!!! For single player they are tied. That is to say that it depends on which exclusives you like. However with Final Fantasy now also to be on the 360 as well as many game titles having exclusive downloadable content only for the 360 (rock band, GTA4, and maybe some more I am not up on all of them) the PS3 is losing that battle too.

The PS3 has AWESOME hardware. But nothing really uses that hardware yet....MAG is supposed to when it comes out late 2009. But as it stands the PS3 has nothing CURRENTLY that is supirior to teh 360 as far as gaming goes.

PS3 = movies
360 = games


Now the 360 has way more DLC int eh 360 online store. I have downloaded many movies and tv shows. Movies are rented but the tv shows I own forever. They play at up to 720p which is not bad. 1080p is better. And don't get confused here the 360 can play 1080p games. So this is another thing the 360 has over on the PS3. I have spent days browsing the DLC - games, demos, tv shows, lots of free stuff. It took me less than an hour to all the PS3 had to offer.

The PS3 CAN match the 360 in DLC but the PS3 is 'young' in this area, the 360 has been out for a year or 2 before teh PS3. But as it stands the PS3 is not up to par. One day. And on that day I am sure it will be great.

I have both and I prefer my 360. I would recomend the 360 over the PS3 for those that have to choose. I also recommend BOTH for those that can so that they can reap what both have to offer.

Another thing I like about the PS3 is the new SOCOM title coming out in October. If it were not for THAT game (the original SOCOM on the PS2) I would never have owned a console.

Vudoo
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Posted: Aug 14, 2008, 14:23:58
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Heh. I can tell your a real fanboy. ;)


Don't misconstrue what I said with Fanboyism (if that's a word). There is a difference between a blind fanboy and a person who has an opinion about something but has actual facts to support it.


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You tried to twist my words.

Correct CoD4 on the 360 DOES NOT CRASH. CoD4 on the PS3 is prone to crashing. <--- that was my point.

I did not address the RROD issue as it was brought up before. Older 360's are prone to the RROD but you get it fixed for free. You have a few weeks with now 360 as the big negative. One of my clanmates is on his 4th or 5th 360 due to the RROD. He went through 3 in 2 months. He is not a lucky one. lol. I have had my 360 or 2.5 years and never had the RROD. Lucky me.


I never denied that COD4 crashes in the PS3. I was just pointing out that COD4 crashing is not something comparable to the RROD. RROD in the older 360's is close to 30 percent and in the newer 360's close to 10 percent. I'm willing to take say that the percent of PS3's having problems with COD4 is not close to those numbers.


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As far as the bluray being able to hold oodles of information. That is cool/good and also not yet used. When they actually use it for something it will matter. Right now it is unused potential. They have been talking about hiw this will be good SOMEDAY since the PS3 released. Why don't they use it?


As I mentioned before, one bluray disc with X amount of information is better than 4 DVDs with X amount of information. That ratio is only bound to get bigger with the size of games increasing so it is potential that is being used correctly.


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Like I said it depends on what your priotity is. Mine is online gaming and the 360 wins that hands down. For playing high def movies the PS3 wins, heck for any movie playing the PS3 wins --> DVD UPSCALER FTW!!!one!!! For single player they are tied. That is to say that it depends on which exclusives you like. However with Final Fantasy now also to be on the 360 as well as many game titles having exclusive downloadable content only for the 360 (rock band, GTA4, and maybe some more I am not up on all of them) the PS3 is losing that battle too.


Yea, the 360 is probably better in online play I'll give you that one. I just play COD4 and NBA 2K8 online though so I wouldn't know. Although, I prefer to play my online games on the computer (don't really like shooting with a joystick :D). As for single player, all I can tell you is PS3 has a lot of exclusives coming along (look below) as well as current exclusives (Metal Gear Solid 4). Microsoft got pretty lucky with Final Fantasy XIII because Square Enix was losing a lot of money and probably got paid quite a lot for FFXIII. PS3 still has FFXIII Versus I believe.


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The PS3 has AWESOME hardware. But nothing really uses that hardware yet....MAG is supposed to when it comes out late 2009. But as it stands the PS3 has nothing CURRENTLY that is supirior to teh 360 as far as gaming goes.


Killzone 2, LittleBigPlanet, FFXIII Versus, God Of War 3, Resistance 2, Gran Turismo 5, Socom Confrontation, Tekken 6, Motorstorm 2, etc, etc.


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And don't get confused here the 360 can play 1080p games.


Yea, but don't you need the HD-DVD add-on which is around 200 dollars?


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I have both and I prefer my 360. I would recomend the 360 over the PS3 for those that have to choose. I also recommend BOTH for those that can so that they can reap what both have to offer.


I agree with that except with PS3 as my preference. :D

In the end, it comes down to each and every person doing their own research and choosing the system that they feel is best. People can talk and talk and talk on forums like we're doing now and it probably won't change anyone's mind. Although I do appreciate you being more reasonable and not like some other kids I've talked to about this. You are more objective than I could ever be. +REP'd.

By the way, most of what I said in the first reply to you was sarcastic, sorry if it didn't come across that way.

DemonHunter2008
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Posted: Aug 14, 2008, 16:55:30
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For me personally, i prefer the ps3 exclusive games to the Xbox 360 ones. For me it seems the xbox 360 has mainly FPS exclusive titles, which there are loads of out there already, i'd go as far to say that it is the most common game format on the consoles.

When it came to getting rid of 1 or the other of my consoles (ps3, and xbox 360), i chose the ps3 over the xbox for a few reasons.

1) The xbox 360, in the bigger picture, is the least reliable console, mine got the rrod and even though it got replaced free of charge in just 2 weeks, its still something that shouldnt happen.

2) The ps3 online is free, and i dont want to pay for something i am only going to occasionally use.

3) I love tekken games :P

Alot of the older playstation exclusive titles have been ported across to the Xbox 360, such as DMC4 and FFXIII, because Microsoft payed ALOT of money to get them there. The same with exclusive downloadable content, i read somewhere that Microsoft payed $50 million for the GTA4 exlusive content. It seems to me that if the 360 was hands down the superior console, then microsoft wouldnt been so desperate to get these things.

Dont get me wrong, the Xbox 360 is a brilliant console, and i wouldnt be dissapointed owning that instead of a PS3. Also there is no competition atm that the Xbox 360 is the superior online console.

SS-Midnight
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Posted: Aug 14, 2008, 20:10:31
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Don't misconstrue what I said with Fanboyism (if that's a word). There is a difference between a blind fanboy and a person who has an opinion about something but has actual facts to support it.



I never denied that COD4 crashes in the PS3. I was just pointing out that COD4 crashing is not something comparable to the RROD. RROD in the older 360's is close to 30 percent and in the newer 360's close to 10 percent. I'm willing to take say that the percent of PS3's having problems with COD4 is not close to those numbers.
You tried to counter my example of CoD4 constantly crashing on the PS3 with the completely unrelated fact of the RRoD. You did not even acknowledge what I said, but tried to hide it with a negative unrelated fact about the 360. <--- Fanboyism. :D




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Microsoft got pretty lucky with Final Fantasy XIII because Square Enix was losing a lot of money and probably got paid quite a lot for FFXIII. PS3 still has FFXIII Versus I believe.
What does either of those speculations have to do with the price of beans in China? In other words, what does that matter? All that is relevant to the consumer is that FFXIII will now also be on the 360. So you no longer have to buy a PS3 to play it, you now also have the 360 as a choice if you want to play that game. No one is gonna think "I am not gonna get a 360 to play that game cause they paid money to get it available." LOL :D That is how business works and M$ is a business. Just like P$3. ;)




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Killzone 2, LittleBigPlanet, FFXIII Versus, God Of War 3, Resistance 2, Gran Turismo 5, Socom Confrontation, Tekken 6, Motorstorm 2, etc, etc.
Not sure about the rest but SOCOM Confrontation is a FUTURE title not yet released....not sure why you mentioned that as a current game...




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Yea, but don't you need the HD-DVD add-on which is around 200 dollars?
No. You don't.






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By the way, most of what I said in the first reply to you was sarcastic, sorry if it didn't come across that way.
You are now my arch nemesis!!! :painkiller: j/k :Banane35: I want to eat your brainzzzzzz. :D

I like the PS3 but not for any reasons related to gaming. My console preference revolves around my Shooter game prefference. I do have an RPG (Mass Effect) and some kid games for my son (viva pinata) though. So that is why I like the 360 the most. I have many friends online and the online service that costs me $4.16 a month not at all expensive. That is a very low price in todays market when you consider WoW and dosn't the final fantsasies cost lik $12/mo or so to play? (I wonder if you will have to pay that on top of the Live fee when it comes out for the 360. Unkown at this time though...)

I started out playing SOCOM on the PS2 and loved the fact that it was free. I remember playing SOCOM and the following sequels in the years after saying that I would NEVER get an xbox and pay for online play. Then SOCOM came out with some very bad sequels that litterally killed the franchise and my clan moved to the 360 and I was like "WOW!" cause it was SO freaking awesome. I had no idea how it was and when all was said and done I was HAPPY to pay the small $50/year $4.17/mo fee for the awesome service that I was longing for while playing on the PS2.





Alot of the older playstation exclusive titles have been ported across to the Xbox 360, such as DMC4 and FFXIII, because Microsoft payed ALOT of money to get them there. The same with exclusive downloadable content, i read somewhere that Microsoft payed $50 million for the GTA4 exlusive content. Again...so what? What does that have to do with us the consumers? That is business. They did not 'cheat', steal, blackmail or do anything wrong. They made an investment with hopes that it will get them more sales. I am sure it is working.


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It seems to me that if the 360 was hands down the superior console, then microsoft wouldnt been so desperate to get these things.

In what way was that desperation? Like I said above it was an investment.

Vudoo
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Posted: Aug 14, 2008, 21:42:43
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Sigh, this is way too much writing so I'm going to keep this as short as possible.


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You tried to counter my example of CoD4 constantly crashing on the PS3 with the completely unrelated fact of the RRoD. You did not even acknowledge what I said, but tried to hide it with a negative unrelated fact about the 360. <--- Fanboyism. :D


Unrelated? I think both fall under the category of system errors/malfunctions therefore is related. I also never said I acknowledged what you said, I only said I never denied it, there is a distinct difference. ;)


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What does either of those speculations have to do with the price of beans in China? In other words, what does that matter? All that is relevant to the consumer is that FFXIII will now also be on the 360.


It doesn't matter, I was just mentioning how MS got FFXIII is all.


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So you no longer have to buy a PS3 to play it, you now also have the 360 as a choice if you want to play that game. No one is gonna think "I am not gonna get a 360 to play that game cause they paid money to get it available." LOL :D That is how business works and M$ is a business. Just like P$3. ;)


Yes, but with the PS3 you can get FFXIII and FFXIII Versus, two completely separate games. Square-Enix hasn't even started making the 360 port yet either so that's delaying when it comes out.


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Not sure about the rest but SOCOM Confrontation is a FUTURE title not yet released....not sure why you mentioned that as a current game...


All those games have yet to be released.




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No. You don't.


Yea, but you need the add-on to play any HD-DVDs. I mean how else you gonna get 1080p videos on your 360? Downloading would just be a waste of time/space.


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You are now my arch nemesis!!! j/k I want to eat your brainzzzzzz.


You know Jewels, the funny thing about my brains is that it's located on my...

(^REALLY BAD SUPERBAD REFERENCE^)


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My console preference revolves around my Shooter game prefference.


Preference? But according to you, those are non-existent. Only thing you can have is FANBOYISM. :D

On a more serious note, my preference on console is RPGs. Note the italics because I love shooters on computer just don't like using a joystick.


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dosn't the final fantsasies cost lik $12/mo or so to play? (I wonder if you will have to pay that on top of the Live fee when it comes out for the 360. Unkown at this time though...)


I take it you've never played any Final Fantasy? All of them are free with the exception of 11 which is a MMO and all the rest are free RPGs.


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Again...so what? What does that have to do with us the consumers? That is business. They did not 'cheat', steal, blackmail or do anything wrong. They made an investment with hopes that it will get them more sales. I am sure it is working.


Ask yourself, why do people abbreviate Microsoft as M$. :D

I don't know about you, but I'm not going to let DRM control me. ;)

DemonHunter2008
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Posted: Aug 15, 2008, 14:59:23
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If i remember correctly Microsoft got sued in court by the US government for breach of business ethics or something, destroying all competition and trying to force consumers into buying their products, because nothing else was allowed to stand a chance. :D lol

From wikipedia.. i quote

"On February 27, 2008 the European Union (EU) competitions commission announced its decision to fine the Microsoft Corporation €899 million (US$1.35 billion), approximately 1/10th of the company's net yearly earnings, for failing to comply with the 2004 antitrust order."

Thats different to the first court case i mention about the US Government.

SS-Midnight
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Posted: Aug 15, 2008, 16:14:17
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Unrelated?
Well ya. I was comparing how online games play for the systems. Key word is 'play'. So when both systems are working. System stability is separate from system function.



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Yes, but with the PS3 you can get ... FFXIII Versus...
Sure. PS3 will always hold it's own share of exclusives. I am all for competition. It helps keep price$ down.




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All those games have yet to be released.
:confused: I don't ....um... why did....oh forget it. LOL



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Yea, but you need the add-on to play any HD-DVDs. I mean how else you gonna get 1080p videos on your 360?
Um...gaming consoles are for gaming.... Games display at up to 1080p on the 360 (and the PS3 of course). The 360 does NOT play high def movies. With the purchase of an add on (up to $200 as you mentioned) you can play HD-DVD's. Also some DLC (lots of movies and tv shows) play at high def (most are 720p I think...not sure if any play at 1080p, I am not very concerned with it).


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Downloading would just be a waste of time/space.
No actually. In fact it takes no time as you can view movies/tv shows as they download (just as you can on the PS3). As for space--> The way DLC works for the 360 is pretty cool. I have the small HDD at 20gb and it can fill up fast. However once purchased, DLC can be re-downloaded at any time. So I can delete stuff that I have recently viewed to make room for more, then I can download them again for free (since I already purchased them) later if I want to view them again. So I do not need to keep DLC on my HDD. They only need to be there while I am using/viewing them. This works with game DLC as well.



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On a more serious note, my preference on console is RPGs. Note the italics because I love shooters on computer just don't like using a joystick.
Ya me too. Keyboard and Mouse FTW!!!1!1one!! But I got sucked into shooters on the console. :( It is cheaper though. To really be competitive with shooters on a PC you need to constantly upgrade hardware...$$$... Consoles tend to be valid for longer periods, and now with the 360/PS3 they half a much longer 'life' than before.




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I take it you've never played any Final Fantasy? All of them are free with the exception of 11 which is a MMO and all the rest are free RPGs.
Heh. It really shows dosn't it? :p Ya I am not a big fan of monthly fees as I mentioned earlier and my first exposure to that game was the one that charge the monthly fee. I guess I thought they were all like that. The only reason why I am ok with LIVE, as I have said before, is because of the rather low fee and I get so much from it. For MMO's I chose to play Guild Wars. No monthly fee, just buy the game and play for free.




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Ask yourself, why do people abbreviate Microsoft as M$. :D
For the same reason they call $ony's sytem a P$3. :D
THEY COST SO DANG MUCH! Both of them. MS nickle-and-dimes you, Sony just charges it all up front. I have love for niether of those companies. I went from PS to xbox, and I will jump right back to the PS if the xbox fails me. I love the competition between them as it is probably the only thing that makes it so that I can afford either one (and both at the moment.)




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I don't know about you, but I'm not going to let DRM control me. ;)
Don't know what that is. :confused:

Vudoo
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Posted: Aug 15, 2008, 18:43:10
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Don't know what that is. :confused:


DRM stands for Digital Rights Management which is essentially Microsoft's form of controlling media that limits what you can do with media files. Prevents you from copying, sharing, doing most of the basic stuff you would be able to do with normal media files...

SS-Midnight
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Posted: Aug 15, 2008, 23:09:37
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Ahh right. I am with you on that one. PS3 is much nicer on that score. Makes the PS3 more of YOUR equipment rather than just a window into other things. Like a PC is yours and can be taylored how you like.

ryu714
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Posted: Aug 16, 2008, 05:49:09
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I own both of them. The ps3 wins hands down. Games look so much better in the ps3. I like online play being free also.

Alpha
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Posted: Oct 1, 2008, 20:45:05
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This discussion can be continued here;
http://www.spawnpoint.com/forums/system_wars/14346-playstation_3_xbox_360_a.html

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