SpawnPoint - Where Game Begins

As right as you may be, so long as the admin is being reasonable, it's a good idea to listen to them. While our guest admins don't make the rules, they are tasked with enforcing them. Sometimes, they are wrong, but "mouthing off" to them is never waranted (I realize that you weren't, you were actually right), just follow their directions or call in a senior admin to figure things out.

The camping guide can be found here for future reference. And the passage in question reads as follows:


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However, there is a specific passage for Assault which reads as follows:


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Note that the passage states that the admins are basically allowed to decide if you're allowed to camp or not. Typically, it's a good idea to just listen to the admin and consult a Server Support Staff member or Senior Admin. I'm not an Assault regular myself, but from when I used to play, I know that, when there are not that many players, and the majority of them are hiding inside the hostie room, it tends to slow down the gameplay. That being said,


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Perhaps the admins decided that it'd be better, and faster, if they limited hostie room camping.

Now, about the slaying. Pointing out that it's not a rule or that the previous action wasn't necessary should not have waranted a slay, we'll have to hear from the two admins on that one. Thanks for coming in to post this. If necessary, I'm sure we can check the logs to validate your claims, but if you have any screenshots or demos, now would be the time to submit them (abuseteam@spawnpoint.com - in the future, should you have any issues with admins, please record a demo). The two admins in question should be along shortly to explain their sides of the story and we'll go from there.

shoarmagun, I just sent you a PM.

Shiyahn, we never go off word of mouth, but we will always take into consideration what you have to say. I can't validate that you did or didn't mouth off to the admin, as he said, but as a general reminder, don't. The admins are there to ensure an enjoyable and fair experience for all players, and to deal with troublemakers when necessary; they really don't need to deal with players being rude or ignorant. You had the right idea, coming to this website to find the correct ruling on the subject, and I respect you for that - you backed up your claims. However, the admins told you not to camp, and you should have listened to them.

According to Shoar, he had given ample warning - eight is even a little excessive, most admins would have taken action a lot sooner. We can understand you missing the warnings once or twice, but eight times?

If you'd like, you can add me on Steam (Tullsy) for any future disputes, I can come in there and help figure things out.

Hello Shiyan

You were camping hostages with your mate and I then warned you not to do it, then you went on to do it the next round despite warnings. You then went on to flame myself and the other admin in question. I told you not to start a debate on the server as it just disrupts play etc, i told you to come on forums. You continued your negative attitude towards me and Shoar Bunny and yes maybe Shoar was a bit harsh in slaying you etc but you were warned not to camp hostages and you decided to ignore it. Camping hostages is permitted but not if it holds up the game or if it is done excessively. Other players were alos getting frustrated hence you were warned/told not to do it. I had to leave before that debate ended so I dont really know wat happened, but you were warned and continued to disrespect admins.

Violence

The reason we have a hotage room camping rule, despite it being in line with the game objectives, is that too much of it just isn't fun for the majority of players. Sure it can be fun for a few rounds, but your team mates who don't do it can find themselves outnumbered and the CTs get bored of shooting through walls and trying to open a door.

Without a demo it's not possible for us to say who was doing what and who said what, so I'll just cover a few general points.

Admins are required to explain what the rules are and enforce them correctly, they aren't required to debate the merit of the rules. If you want to do that then the forum is the place to do it. We are quite happy to explain, justify and debate any of our rules. I you feel an admin is not enforcing the rules correctly, making stuff up or abusing their admin then again you can do so on the forum, or if you prefer to do so anonymously you can email abuseteam@spawnpoint.com or submit a demo and details via the report a hacker link.

I would expect admins to allow a few rounds of office camping before taking any action. Another thing to consider is that if you are playing, get killed by someone in the office and then warn them, is that they may not have been camping the office, just retreated in there as the round went on. Unless you have another way to know he's been in there all round you should be careful warning players when you've not been in a position to properly observe them.

Shiyan, if you have any further problems with our admins or want anything explaining then please let us know.

I think everyone has now said all they have to say so I'll close this thread.