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Old 02-22-2008, 05:33 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Who created God

God has no beginning and no end because God is unimaginable. The beginning and the end must be also unimaginable for an unimaginable item. The beginning and the end of the cosmic energy or space or the creation are also unimaginable. Therefore, the beginning and the end are unimaginable for the unimaginable item like God and also for the imaginable item like space. Therefore, the two points, which are the beginning-less and end-less characteristics cannot help you in understanding the real nature of God. If you start recognizing the God by simply these two points (beginning-less and end-less), you may think that God is an imaginable item like the space or energy or the creation. In fact based on these two characteristics people have imagined God as an imaginable item like space or energy or creation. This concept has misled people to such a low level that people think that God is the very infinite space or infinite energy or infinite creation. Therefore, one should filter the concept of God at this juncture itself. One should think that God has no beginning and no end because the beginning and the end of an unimaginable item are also unimaginable.

Such God desired to create this Universe for entertainment. The very desire itself is the Creation. In view of God this present materialized universe in only an idea or imagination or the very desire itself. Therefore, the desire to create the world is itself the desire and also the created world itself is a desire. Thus the creation, maintenance and dissolution of the imaginary world are also imaginations or desires. A part of this infinite creation is the individual soul. The soul is like a drop of the infinite ocean of imagination or desire of God. Thus, quantitatively the entire ocean of imagination of God is very huge compared to the tiny soul. Remember that both the Universe and the tiny soul are made of the same substance called as imagination or desire. Thus the force of the Universe is far greater than the force of the soul. Due to such huge quantitative difference of the same phase, the Universe, which is far stronger than the soul appears as a materialized entity for the soul. But this infinite ocean of desire, which is the infinite Universe is a tiny drop compared to the infinite force of God. Therefore, again due to the same quantitative difference of force the entire universe is just the very weak imagination from the view of God. Thus imagination and materialization exist simultaneously true from the point of God and soul.

For the sake of entertainment, God desired to create the Universe. This statement is in Veda (Sa dviteeya Maicchat). In this statement there is a very subtle intermediate stage, which is the essence of the desire to create the Universe. The desire to create the world is like the golden ornament but the essence of such desire is like the raw gold in which the ornament is not yet expressed. Such raw essence of the desire is pure awareness. The pure awareness is a special subtle form of energy, which is not qualified by any form. Such pure awareness is called as the spirit, which is not qualified and does not have any attribute. This is called as “Nirguna Brahman”, which means the pure awareness, which has no reference to the creation of the universe. It is a very critical and subtle point to recognize the pure awareness. Veda says that only very very sharp intelligence can grasp that critical state (Drushyate Tvagraya bhuddhya). Sankara, the topmost genius among the spiritual preachers could grasp that state and proposed the concept of Nirguna Brahman or non-qualified pure awareness. Such pure awareness is the first creation of God (Parabrahman). This first creation is almost as critical and unimaginable as the very Parabrahman itself. The only difference is that Parabrahman is absolutely unimaginable for any sharp intelligence, but this pure awareness is imaginable only for a very sharp intelligence. This pure awareness is called as Mula Prakriti or Suddha Sattvam or Mula Avidya or Mula Maya or the Spirit in general. The Parabrahman maintains such spirit and it is only an associated item and is the first created item. The word Mula means the first. This spirit is in the form of knowledge. It is aware of itself, which means that it is knowledge. Knowledge requires both subjective and objective characteristics. It is subject as well as the object. Therefore, it is called as knowledge or Sattvam. This knowledge is the first form of energy.

Energy is always active. Action is the characteristic of Rajas. Such Spirit is unaware of its own creator who is the God. Therefore, it is having ignorance or Tamas. Thus, the Knowledge itself is action and ignorance. According to Gita Knowledge is Sattvam (Sattvaat Sanjayate Jnanam), action is Rajas (Rajah Karmani) and Ignorance is Tamas (Tamastva Jnanajam). Thus these three qualities are always inseparable. The pure knowledge (Suddha Sattvam) itself is pure action (Suddha Rajas), which is the pure ignorance (Suddha Tamas). Thus in the very first instant itself the three qualities are created simultaneously in the purest state. Since all these three co-exist, it is called as equilibrium of the three qualities. When the equilibrium is disturbed various items of awareness result in which the three qualities exist in various proportions. Such disturbance of the equilibrium resulting in various distorted items of the three qualities is the very creation. The various mixtures of these three qualities constitute this diversified universe, which is meant for the play of the God and for His entertainment. When the entertainment is over all the three qualities go into the equilibrium state. Thus the Universe is converted into Mula Prakruti.
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Old 02-22-2008, 06:51 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 02-24-2008, 05:05 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Um...double blink?

What the hex0r was the point he was trying to make? That humanities purpose in the eyes of God is equal to one channel on the "godly Discovery channel"? Entertainment only?
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Old 02-24-2008, 05:15 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Need...more...paragraphs...attention span too short...

I thought Hitman begat all???
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Old 02-24-2008, 06:25 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Old 02-24-2008, 07:57 PM   #6 (permalink)
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ummmmmm answers on a postcard......
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Old 02-24-2008, 09:27 PM   #7 (permalink)
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lol hes banned .

I was going to Say I created god.

But who created me?
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Old 02-26-2008, 07:19 AM   #8 (permalink)
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wow someone worked really hard on there religious studies essay.

I thought maybe he was plagiarizing but he also posted the same here:

American History Forums - Who created God

Why the ban lol?
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Old 02-28-2008, 05:15 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Did he get banned?! LOL Class... I was hoping he was going to expand on the subject a little more.... PMSL
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Old 02-28-2008, 07:32 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Yes he is banned.

What his "god" created my ban hammer taketh away

Actually, he spammed the blogs section with about 10 blogs with this guff in it so was banjaxed by the Raven Hammer
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Old 03-24-2008, 05:08 PM   #11 (permalink)
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We get those kind of people shouting in the streets in Leeds.. preaching stuff like this.. wish there was a mute button
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lol hes banned .

I was going to Say I created god.

But who created me?
Your Mother.

Didnt they teach you that in Bio?
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Old 03-24-2008, 05:29 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Your Mother.

Didnt they teach you that in Bio?
What do they teach you kids, it's a joint effort
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Old 03-25-2008, 03:59 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Cough *Jahovas Witness* Cough
WTF! o_0 who writes that kind of stuff lol!
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