SpawnPoint - Where Game Begins

Weaver is right with the tar sands. The oil that can be harvested from them is greater than the supplies located in the middle east potentially. Many cars can already run on ethanol fuel (see www.e85fuel.com), and the US produces a surplus of grains, so we have ample resources to create the ethanol fuel. And with the current trend of gas prices, ethanol fuel will soon be cheaper to produce than oil fuel, even with current technology and methods of producing the ethanol. Massachusetts has an offshore windfarm on the table. It would be the largest offshore windfarm in the world I believe if it happens. Of course there are a number of people against it because they are worried it will kill birds and ruin the view. Of course the number of birds killed is fewer than would result from the fumes spewed from burning power plants, and the windmills will only appear as specs on the horizon from shore. Even if the Massachusetss - Cape Cod wind farm doesn't come to pass, there are many other offshore wind farms in the works for the US. One of the things that Canada allows that I think the US could try is private wind power. Wind generators are allowed in parts of Canada for businesses and some homes. And then of course there is the promise of fuel cell technology. It's already here, but they can't decide/agree on a good method of storing the hydrogen for use in the cars.

I think the most realistic chance we have for energy independence is through the use of organic based fuels like ethanol. They can already make it, and they are already making cars to run on it. All that is needed is proper distribution of this fuel. Much of our organic scraps can be recycled and turned into usable fuel. There are furnaces out there for heating water and homes that are designed to burn whatever organic matter you have. Apparently corn actually burns more efficiently and cheaper than wood.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060429/ap_on_bi_ge/earns_oil_5

Toyota Prius is a hybrid that currently gets 60 MPG. There are also some hybrids that have been made but have not gone in to production that get up to 90 MPG

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Everyone should be happy when they get tax cuts, not your fault you're getting them.

But Bush is destroying our economy with those tax cuts. Bush has wars going on around the world, spending money where it doesn't belong, cutting back on education needs, and destroying senior citizen benefits. He still has no problem with making more and more tax cuts, which solve absolutely nothing besides put money in the pockets of people who really don't need it.

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We need to start using alcohol. Brazil is already years, yes YEARS, further advanced in alcohol use for veichles then USA.

I'm not only bashing Bush,which looks like you only care to read, I'm bashing eveyone in Washington who isn't doing a damn thing. Bush cut taxes for these corporations for them to advance their technology in alternative fuel, but here's a surprise...they're not doing anything. Didn't see that one coming...

These taxes should be going into technology for the long run and not the short term solution to make people happy for a small amount of time.

the problem with most of your suggestions is that it takes time andalot of cashto use these methods. its a fact the we have to find an alternative and very soon indeed. by the time the leaders decide to get movin the economies dependant on oilwill be in the deepest sh*t. :(

it seems to me that governments are well aware of the 'peak oil' affect (effect?) but drag their feet on the subject. its a hole thats getting deeper as we speak.

About a month ago a group of high school shop kids showed off a car they built at one of the big car shows that embarrassed the big car makers at the show. They used salvaged parts to build a biodiesel engine for thier car and got something like 60 MPG. And they proved that you can have both great milage and real power under the hood at the same time..the car did 0-60 in 6 seconds.

oh, and they weren't from one of those "gifted" schools for the ultra intelligent kids...they were from an alternative school for kids who had flunked out or otherwise been thrown out of regular high schools. So if they can build a car like that out of junk parts, what excuse do the big companies have for not being able to do the same thing?

Drilling in Alaska and other locations wont solve a thing. It will give the big oil guys more oil to put on the world market so they can continue doing what they are doing now. Drill it up,move it around, and up the price. How is that going to help us? We are making gas at capacity now. More oil has to be made into more gas. The oil companies will not give us any bargin prices.
We need major conservation and alternative fuels. We can do it if we get the cooperation of the government. But don't forget...it wont be easy. We have an expesive government to run. Big tax loses if we cut back on consumption. We need the money to pay for Bush tax cuts and pay for the mess he is making.