Capital Punishment

[Z3RO]

Capital Punishment is also known as the death penalty. It is the execution of a person (criminal) by the state as a punishment for a crime. Today, the death penalty is reserved as punishment for premeditated murder, espionage, treason, or as part of military justice. Among countries around the world, almost all European and many Pacific Area states (including Australia, New Zealand and Timor Leste), and Canada have abolished capital punishment. Many religions don't accept the death penalty.

Many scholars believe that the death penalty violates the criminals right to life and that the life imprisonment without parole works equally well as a deterrent for murder. While on the other hand, supporters believe that the penalty is justified for murderers by the principle of retribution, and life imprisonment is ineffective substitute for a deterrence for murder and that the death penalty affirms the right to life by punishing those who violate it in the most strict form.

I personally am not for/ nor against captial punishment. In some cases, I believe it is necessary, while in others I don't.

What is your view on Capital Punishment?

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[teh-pwnzer]

See there are times when I can honestly say someone deserves to die for whatever crime (murder) they have been involved in. Heck I'd even volunteer to push the lever! But in today's society, too many mistakes can happen. There have been so many people incarcerated for crimes that they did not commit. Imagine those people going to the death chamber, while all along they are innocent. One can argue that maybe this is a possibilty, that mistakes do happen and that it can be considered "collateral damage". In my eyes though, even the life of one innocent person is important enough to be against capital punishment. I hope this makes sense.

I'm all for life in prison, because that would be more of a punishment in my eyes than a quiet, peacefull death. One that was not even an option for the murder victim.

I also think I heard in a conversation once that it is much more costly to put someone to death, than it is to keep them alive in jail for life. I think this all involves the cost of appeals and stuff...Of course this would come out of tax payers' money...

So, let's save money and innocent lives...

[ANTICHRIST]

im guessing you started this form my thread i started about the teacher and girl

[Z3RO]

Originally Posted by ANTICHRIST

im guessing you started this form my thread i started about the teacher and girl

Why yes I did.

[edge]

Well an eye for an eye and all that..

but fancy been the poor judge who has to decide if someone lives or dies.. what if there innocent and wrongly killed?

With that over your head, i wouldn't be able to sleep at night, i believe rotting away in jail is a much worser punishment than been killed..

looking up an reading i may be just repeating what pwnzer has said.. lol

I think criminals should be forced to do something worthwhile .. e.g. fight for the country, but due to safety reasons we couldn't give them guns... give them feather dusters!!

[Insomnia]

I have to agree with pwnz on this one.

The death penalty is an easy way out. Life in prison is a much better punishment for crime than a quick peaceful death.

An eye for an eye will only leave the whole world blind. and even if the criminal is sanctioned for the death penalty it will not bring the dead back.

[cpnichol]

I'm strongly opposed to the death penalty. It's morally wrong, expensive and ineffective as a deterant. About the only thing it acheives is vengeance, and I don't think having your government exacting vengeance on its citizens just for the sake of it is a good idea. The rest of the developed world seems to agree:



I find the Christians justification of "an eye for an eye" to be well, inadequate, given that there is a commandment that says "thou shalt not kill". That being a commandment with no footnotes or exceptions you'd have thought it it would be considered ahead of a bit from the old testament.

[Raven]

I wouldn't mind the punishment being life in prison if "life" meant just that.....

Also, prison should be "harsh"...none of this playstations, gym equipment, TV and 3 square meals a day as it is now

Someone tell me how that is really a deterrent either?

However, I still reckon we should have the death penalty for "exceptional circumstances" like genocide or mass murder or treason or suchlike.

[Xemnas]

Originally Posted by Raven

I wouldn't mind the punishment being life in prison if "life" meant just that.....

Also, prison should be "harsh"...none of this playstations, gym equipment, TV and 3 square meals a day as it is now

Someone tell me how that is really a deterrent either?

However, I still reckon we should have the death penalty for "exceptional circumstances" like genocide or mass murder or treason or suchlike.

I believe raven that you can only play Playstation or watch TV if you have good behavior. But that just from what i hear, I haven't been to jail nor do i plan on it

Back on topic

Personally i cannot agree upon the Death Penalty But with the exception of murder/Attempted murder,And sexual activity with a minor, These should be the only reasons to put and individual to death cause i rather not have a child molested just be in jail for 5 years and only to come back with the same twisted mind before he went in.

I am a firmly believe in the case of "Eye for and Eye", Equivalent exchange as i call it to be dealt with murderers, you take the life of another they should take the life of your or at least put in in jail till you rot/kick the bucket. Cause as they say "Can't do the time. Don't do the crime"

[teh-pwnzer]

Guys, our judicial system is not flawless. Innocent people could be put to death...at least if they get life in prison and some years down the line, they are proven innocent due to negligence on the prosecutor's side (withholding pertinent evidence) AND new evidence (new DNA evidence) comes up exonerating them, they are still alive.

There was a case in NY about a year ago...guy got life in prison for a double homicide. Some twenty years later, it was proven that he did NOT commit those murders....He lost 20 something years of his life in jail, but at least he's alive...*and able to sue*

If that man was put to death...well...that would be the end of it! Some end...

[ActionJester]

Some people would argue that the Death Penalty is too leniant, however, I believe that it can be practiced under extreme circumstances.

[zol]

The death penalty is wrong morally and doesn't deter any capital punishable offenses.

Taking ones life for any reason whatsoever is morally wrong, in my opinion. If one takes another ones life, the system should not sink to the level of the criminal, and actually kill someone.

I know this is an anti-capital punishment website, but the numbers aren't doctored in a bias way. It's simply the murder rate listed from top to bottom, and it highlights the states which do not have capital punishment in yellow. Clearly, capital punishment does not prevent murders from happening.
Murder Rates 1996 - 2006

[Insomnia]

Here in the United States, not all the prisons have such luxuries. Only level one low guard prisons support that.

You have to excel in behavior and have small offenses tho to be concidered to be admitted or transferred into such a facility.

My friend, went to jail for 5 months for stealing a car. He got transferred three times on the basis of drastically improved behavior. He got up to a level 2 low guard prison. He went from sharing a room with 3 other guys to having his own room and having a choice of meals. But on the other hand, he is only 17 so i do not know if it applies to adults.