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Old 03-19-2006, 10:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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[link=http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2023320890224991194&q=loose+change]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2023320890224991194&q=loose+change[/link]
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Old 03-21-2006, 12:26 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I just watched the whole thing and I gotta say I'm not really surprised. Ok I'm no americain and I don't really like Bush in the first place but I find it totally possible from him to do that. Think about it, faking 9/11 was the best way to scare americans and therefor help him beeing re-elected to assure a protection over the country..
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Old 03-21-2006, 03:02 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Plus it is an excuse to bomb the hel out of Afghanistan, which lead to the War in Iraq. I think the whole thing was just an excuse to "search" Iraq, and to get rid of Saddam, who was probably one of the biggest threats to the US (IF he had nukes that is.)

Very good documentary, I liked it. Had no idea 1 hour videos can play in google [&:]
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Old 03-22-2006, 07:48 AM   #4 (permalink)
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i think the video has forgery in all of it.
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Old 03-22-2006, 08:54 AM   #5 (permalink)
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OK guys if this video had any merit to it don't you think the Democrats would have a field day with this (not including the media)and have PresidentBush impeached. I f you really believe this I have some nice land for sale.
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Old 03-22-2006, 03:07 PM   #6 (permalink)
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OK guys if this video had any merit to it don't you think the Democrats would have a field day with this (not including the media)and have PresidentBush impeached. I f you really believe this I have some nice land for sale.
Nope. I don't think they would do anything if it were true or close to true. Think about it, it's like 'the right to remain silent'. They know 'anything they say can be used against them' if the cover evere gets blown over. They won't say it is false, because they would be lieing


I dunno I'm bored, I don't do politics
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Old 03-23-2006, 09:06 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I didnt vote for Bush...The documentary....sillyness. Bush could go to war without going to all the trouble of trying to fake the 911 happening.
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Old 03-23-2006, 09:17 PM   #8 (permalink)
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ehhh i saw it and it is convincing ( i live in NY ), umm its just so dam farfetched its hard to think its true no matter how much evidence is provided.
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Old 03-23-2006, 11:52 PM   #9 (permalink)
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i heard it was fake (that is the video)...
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Old 03-24-2006, 08:49 AM   #10 (permalink)
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i watch like 5 minutes of it and i was like what did they use paint pro shop on some if it.
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Old 03-24-2006, 12:05 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I sat throught that load of crap and wish someone could give me that hour of my life back. I was going to write one of my notorious novels going point by point through the whole thing to explain what was wrong with it and why each of the "facts" was in truth nothing but paranoid conjecture that ignored ACTUAL facts in favor of wild claims, but I didn't want to waste another hour of my life watching it again to make sure I didin't miss any of thier claims. I'nstead I'll just put up a link to the Popular Mechanics article that uses little things like "science", "evidence", "experts" (as in people who actually have years of experience and research in a given field), and "reality" to debunk the claims.
[link=http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html]http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html[/link]

I admit I have too much free time on my hands, but unlike the jackoffs who came up with that crap at least I (usually) don't waste it on paranoid delusions. The amount of time those people wasted dreaming up thier conspiracy theories and making that video could have been much better spent nuetering themselves with sporks and mellon ballers.
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Old 03-26-2006, 11:57 PM   #12 (permalink)
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but Fallen I like your novels...they save me so much typing
not only all that has been said but people had cell phone conversations of hosties talking about the ARAB TERRORISTS on the plane to people on the ground.... did these people forget that? Do you remember the famous "let's roll!" recording of the last plane that was nose dived because of the passengers rushing the co.ckpit?(I can't say co.ckpit?)Trying to say that Bush did this is as stupid as the Reps that blamed Clinton for everything up to when they got diarhea or a cold. They both have done some stupid stuff but com'mon.....

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Old 03-27-2006, 05:42 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I gotta say guys, wake up and smell the roses. Why would anybody make a fake video? There are so many other ways to remove someone from power than a far fetched conspiracy theory. Lets face it, if you wanted Bush gone then assassination is the only way just like JFK. Why simply try to have him removed from power? Do you not think that IF what the video suggests is real that a huge number of people from all of the different agencies would have been in on it? Look at the pictures and the witness statements (on film) those are the honest things you can't question. Where is the rubble? Where is the destruction? 7 black boxes gone? I think not. You guys who live in the USA or who believe in the film being a fake should really re analyse the factual evidence presented in the movie and accept the fact the you are living underan illusion. Look on the web for pics from other crashes, look at the mess. Look at the way the towers fall and listen to what demolition experts agree is a controlled demolition.

IMO the evidence presented in this and other documentaries about9/11 are irrefutable. And secondly isn't terrorism exactly wat the USA was a) founded on and b) involved in when they freely assasinated people at will around the globe during the 60's/70's/80's/90's and to this very day whenever they feel like it. Your country is enshrouded in terrorism, it is the very fabric of what makes you the world "super power".

And IMO you (the american government)will do whatever it takes to maintain that.
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Old 03-27-2006, 06:20 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I thought the pre-explosions of the towers falling pretty convincing...

It really does look like an explosion happens before the collapsing tower reaches the section where the explosion takes place.
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Old 03-27-2006, 06:54 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I gotta say guys, wake up and smell the roses. Why would anybody make a fake video?
I haven't watched the video yet, and I may never watch it. However, I just had to respond to this statement. People have faked things throughout history. It's just that now that there is newer technology and better actors, the fakes become harder to discern. Why do people fake crop circles? Tons of people have admitted to faking crop circles. The famous Loch Ness Monster pic was origianlly believed authentic, but on his death bed, the photographer admitted he had faked the photo. The famous bigfoot video with bigfoot stalking across the frame was originally proclaimed real. Then someone admitted it was fake, then he took his word back and said it was real. As with many farces, they are done for the simple pleasure and challenge of pulling a prank and tricking as many people as possible. That is all the reason they need. So don't immediately jump to the conclusion that the video must be real because there is no reason for anyone to fake it. That is a logical fallacy. Post hoc I think... but I may be mistaken.

Additionally, any data or info can be twisted or skewed to reveal what ever conclusion the crafty creator wishes to be shown. This is how lawyers make their living.
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Old 03-27-2006, 07:08 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I thought the pre-explosions of the towers falling pretty convincing...

It really does look like an explosion happens before the collapsing tower reaches the section where the explosion takes place.
The Pentagon case was more than enough for me to raise an eyebrow. The hole this 'Jet Airliner' hitting the side of the building was smaller than just one of its engines was. And the parts found of the plane (though few in numbers) did not match those of the spec's for the jet itself. Sure, people heard and saw a jet. But, think about it...a Jet Airliner traveling about 50 feet up at 500Mph would pretty much flatten anything and everything below it. A cruise Missile would not, it is much smaller (though still big)...also note...Tomahawks use Jet engines.

The witnesses are telling thier story yes, but what they really saw was a 500mph blur, a huge jet sound, and an explosion. They put the peices together using the info that the Twin towers were hit by Jet's, they simply assumed it was another Jet. After all, in thier minds, why would a cruise missile be fired at the Pentagon?

If the Gov'mt wanted to prove otherwise, they would simply release the Tapes the FBI took that caught the crash happening, instead