
shift944
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Everything was fine, then yesterday happened...
Posted: Oct 30, 2011, 12:53:04
Yea so some US East coasters here probably know what I'm talking about considering yesterdays storm, I live in upstate NJ and we have around 9" and no power in the near future (5-6 days). Needless to say I am a little miffed, as all I've got now is my acer running on my cell phone tether and a nice warm fireplace. And go figure it's not even November yet... I usually don't mind the snow and Winter, but, IS IT SPRING YET? I'll try and post some photos from my phone by the end of the week, I didn't think to grab my canon this morning, it the beauty and destruction was everywhere.
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Tullsy
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Re: Everything was fine, then yesterday happened...
Posted: Oct 31, 2011, 11:39:44
Ah, snow. The one thing I don't miss ... I'll take the gloomy weather and rain every day over snow for three months. :)
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sulli456
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Re: Everything was fine, then yesterday happened...
Posted: Oct 31, 2011, 13:40:28
How unseasonable, bet it has caused a right old farce, bet there is some good contrast with autumn leaves with a nice white background.
Not looking forward to winter here in the UK, with rumours of a bad winter it looks like i could be stuck at home with no power and no way of getting around with me living in the sticks. Good luck with your snow escapades and i hope you get your power back soon.
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shift944
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Re: Everything was fine, then yesterday happened...
Posted: Nov 3, 2011, 10:49:33
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davie
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Re: Everything was fine, then yesterday happened...
Posted: Nov 3, 2011, 14:59:42
It is a simple case of economics for the power companies.
If you compare the cost of building a line versus burying a cable , the line costs much less per mile to build and can carry many more times the amount of electricity per cross sectional area of conductor.
The repair costs are usually lower for OH line becuse it is generally easier to access the line to find faults and repair them.
90% of faults on OH line are transients , bird strikes , lightning and so on and with modern switchgear on the line these faults will cause only short term interruptions to supply where as 100% interruptions on the underground networks are cable faults and require longer timescales for supply to be restored and faults to be repaired.
I spend an increasing amount of my time dealing with these problems and it is much quicker and easier to see a wire down than to dig a street up to find a cable.
Well thats my tuppence ........... Davie.
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shift944
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Re: Everything was fine, then yesterday happened...
Posted: Nov 3, 2011, 16:46:37
Yea Davie I actually talked with somebody on the subject earlier in the day and they informed me along with all your insight, that around here it costs about $1000/ft to lay primary lines underground. And that it is not unheard of when people are zapped by electricity leaking through the insulation into the ground. I think he mentioned overhead lines run about 10 cents/ft, and of course are much more easily accessable. Hopefully in a few years solar and wind power will power many more things independent of the grid.
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Tullsy
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Re: Everything was fine, then yesterday happened...
Posted: Nov 3, 2011, 17:35:29
I hate to be that guy, but up here in Canada, we live for that stuff (most of us do, anyways). It always entertains me when snow makes the news (last year, in Vancouver, it snowed a couple centimeters and they dubbed it "Snowpocalypse"), and while this is an extreme case, most schools up here wouldn't even consider closing if that were the situation.
Appart from the West Coast of Canada, if it snows less than a foot over the window, it's a bloody miracle.
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shift944
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Re: Everything was fine, then yesterday happened...
Posted: Nov 3, 2011, 17:57:46
I think the biggest thing was that it is very unseasonable and the area was very unprepared for it. Like the tropical storm last month, we had power crews all the way from Ohio running shifts here, 24/7. There was not a whole lot of salt/grit yet as far as I understand and for a day or two communications and resources were a bit overwhelmed.
Up North, yea it's not a big deal because you are accustomed to it and have lived with it for as long as one can imagine. There is also that unfortunate vibe that people give around here like they've seen and weathered it all, and for the most part everyone who's lived around here for a good portion of their lives is like that. Unfortunately when they lose power and can't find a generator or salt or shovels or whatever, they lose their freaking minds. It's amazing how incapacitated the community becomes because of it, but people will never learn. Thankfully some just know to shut up and suck it up. They have what they need and they are the last ones that need assistance. Welcome to the 21st Century...
EDIT: And around here people think they can take their Prius's out on unplowed roads, then act suprised when they wreck them, and then have the nerve to get upset at Police/Fire when they are told they have to wait more than 10 minutes to get help... Unbelievable.
Last Edited: Nov 3, 2011, 18:00:43
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Tullsy
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Re: Everything was fine, then yesterday happened...
Posted: Nov 3, 2011, 19:03:24
You'd be surprised how stupid people are up here in the winter. Just because we're used to the cold and snow doesn't make it t-shirt weather or appropriate weather for, as you said, your Prius or light sedan. People always believe they are the greatest drivers in the world, and that's a major downfall of society during times of peril.
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warp5977
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Re: Everything was fine, then yesterday happened...
Posted: Nov 24, 2011, 23:04:54
Dang, i cant imagine how bad that must have been! Sorry to hear that
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