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Awp Or Scout?
Posted: Nov 4, 2008, 22:10:27
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I wanted to know which sniper is better, I tried both extensively, and i love the scout, wanted a few opinions.
Posted: Nov 4, 2008, 22:22:18
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If your good at using both, AWP is better. If you are a headshot GENIUS, and NEVER miss, then Scout is better because you can run much faster with it than the AWP and reload time is shorter, as is the time between shots.

Technically the scout beats the AWP in every way except for brute force.
Soooo. AWP is better :D
Posted: Nov 4, 2008, 22:31:19
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Yeah it depends. If you are fast, you can be better with scout vs an awp. I can scout somebody 2 times before they can hit me with an awp..By then, they are dead. I still would pick awp over scout any day though, because I rarely miss :)
Posted: Nov 4, 2008, 23:02:56
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Cos im the worst sniper in CSS known to mankind id have to pick the AWP, i rarely use any sniper weapons.

But id rather pickup an AWP take down someone then pickup my AK/M4 again.
Posted: Nov 5, 2008, 00:12:09
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Well the awp is good... But its flawed. I DO prefer the scout but so much depends on me picking it over the awp. Like how tired i am for a start. The awp is a lot easier to use and im a lot better with it. And if its me vs 3 guys at the end of the round and i have an awp ill keep it because im confident with it, where as if its me v 3 at the end of the round and i have a scout. Ill throw it for an ak/m4 or pretty much anything i can find. So its touch and go.
But nothing beats the rush of smashing someone straight through the forehead at range with the scout. So for me the choice lays on equal sides of the fence. Scouts tougher, but more rewarding. While its easy (when you know how) To rack up frags with the awp.
Posted: Nov 5, 2008, 00:14:17
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After a 69-13 session in crackhouse, i proudly declare the awp the better sniper. i played with the awp the whole time.

maybe had 4 kills w m4?
Posted: Nov 5, 2008, 02:02:15
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AWP's cheap. Real Snipers (tm) use the Scout exclusively and refuse to foot snipe on Assault.
Posted: Nov 5, 2008, 03:30:43
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Idk, I'm able to smash people scout v awp. Outta 120 kills, i had over 85 headshots. Plus, you move faster with a scout than a knife, which....is weird. but i'm not complaining. Scout also takes "some" skill. Awping is too easy imo. it actually gets annoying your playing cssdm on crackhouse and 60% of the people are awping. scouts are also fun, i agree, its more rewarding when you nail someone in the face with a scout then shooting him in the leg and killing him if he had already lose 25 health. I mean, by the time someone gets a dominating with an awp, they prolly already have lose 30 hp. I was playing a server and got 102-7 awpin. after scouting though, awping is weird, cuz its so slow....SCOUTS FTW!
Posted: Nov 5, 2008, 12:26:11
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I also prefer the awp. For sure on Assault,Because i really hate feetshooters,And they're hard to take out with a scout.I choose awp for his damage,on all the other stuff the scout is better,actually.But i do prefer the awp.
Posted: Nov 5, 2008, 13:46:27
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Quote from rigormotis:
Real Snipers (tm) use the Scout exclusively


Which is why all the pro snipers in CAL and the like use AWP.

Its simple, AWP is better, if you hit them anywhere, other than the foot, they die. Scout you HAVE to hit them in the head to get that.

AWP is more accurate, AWP does more damage, AWP does not need a second shot if your good enough.

Sure you can move faster with a scout, but awpers can swap to a knife and keep up. There is no way in hell a scout can be better, unless your on an XC map. :p
Posted: Nov 5, 2008, 17:29:28
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Well, the weird thing, is with a knife out, you move at 240 velocity. With a scout, you move at 250. You can try it for yourself, it's weird. And hitting someone in the head isn't that difficult imo, idk about other people.
Posted: Nov 5, 2008, 22:57:01
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So, what do you guys think, like on crackhouse, what do yuo think?
Posted: Nov 6, 2008, 15:12:34
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Which is why all the pro snipers in CAL and the like use AWP.

Its simple, AWP is better, if you hit them anywhere, other than the foot, they die. Scout you HAVE to hit them in the head to get that.

AWP is more accurate, AWP does more damage, AWP does not need a second shot if your good enough.

Sure you can move faster with a scout, but awpers can swap to a knife and keep up. There is no way in hell a scout can be better, unless your on an XC map. :p


True any type of competative play Awp is god. Idc how fast you move, you don't move faster than my bullet.



Quote from rigormotis:
AWP's cheap. Real Snipers (tm) use the Scout exclusively and refuse to foot snipe on Assault.

Second real players don't play assault sorry... When assault or any other cs map makes it to cal I'll consider it a map for real players.

Third hasn't there been like 50 of these Awp scout threads? :/
Posted: Nov 6, 2008, 17:48:20
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personally i love the scout i prefer the scout you get much more satisfaction from a kill with it and the reaction of a AWPer when you get them is just priceless especially if they hit you in the foot when you jump and you crack em right in the head.
Though if i am in a tired mood and can't be bothered playing CS:S like i have been recently i go for the AWP takes a lot less effort jump crouch and sit there.
Posted: Nov 9, 2008, 02:22:38
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Yeah, I know that "professional players" pretty much exclusively use the AWP and that Assault is not a CAL map. When I refer to "real players" I'm talking about the people that don't do things a certain way because its easier, or even better. They do things like rush front on Assault with only a TMP because its crazy, more of a challenge, and thus, more fun. Also, real players on not concerned with meaningless things such as rank and kdr. Assault gets played a lot, not because its a fair map, buy because its an exciting challenge to be either CT or T against a highly skilled CT team.

Thus ends my little rant about why I do the things I do.

P.S. - As an admin, rushing right away is also very useful if you want to watch a hacker without being suspicious.
Posted: Nov 10, 2008, 16:48:37
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P.S. - As an admin, rushing right away is also very useful if you want to watch a hacker without being suspicious.


Agreed

I think people have a different view on what a "real" player is and thats the biggest problem. In MY opinion, hardcore gamers are the real players of CSS. Public is something you do for fun, but matches is where it gets interesting, its where the money is.

Therefor people I consider real players use awp.

If you think a "real" player is a casual gamer that is quite happy to commit suicide running into assault with a tmp that is a different matter.

It depends what you enjoy, owning with an awp, or owning with a scout. Lets face it, if your good with 1, your good with the other.
Posted: Nov 11, 2008, 03:59:09
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I enjoy making people mad and call me a hacker when I go 66 and 28 with a scout on Deathmatch. It's makes it even better when they "are forced to go to spec" because they can't handle getting scouted in the face.

No matter how fun and "easy" the AWP is, it will never replace the scout in my mind. There is just that feel and satisfaction of scouting someone in the face that will always be something to look forward too. You do, however, have to have lots and lots of patients while working up your skill as you will die lots, and I repeat, lots.

Something to try is to force yourself to use scout only on a deathmatch server. That means that you drop you pistol right away or don't choose one right off the bat. You get good really quick, especially in Office. These is nothing better then rounding the corner and shoving a Scout in someones face and firing.

~Tullsy
Posted: Nov 11, 2008, 17:04:28
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Tills, that always happens doesn't it? I have a freind in my clan who goes 300-120 with a scout and man even that admins get pissed about it but they can't ban him cuz he's not hackin. Not saying anything against admins if it sounds like it though..;)
Posted: Nov 11, 2008, 22:12:12
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i agree with drifter, will people ever stop asking the same questions over and over again?
Posted: Nov 13, 2008, 10:13:05
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Eh...I generally do just as much damage (in terms of kills) with a scout as I do with the awp. Scout does take a little more practice.

The only times I ever really buy a scout though are when I try to buy an M4 on T side or AK on CT side...

I like the awp because it doesn't miss (if your not moving)...and will kill in 1 hit if you get the torso or head. Scout only a headshot will kill someone with full health.

You do move faster with a scout than anything else though (knife included), and it's actually a more ideal weapon for my frantic fast faced game play, I just don't like the fact that I miss shots I know would have hit with an awp.

In a desperate situation, 4v1 or something, if I had to choose I would be happy with either to be honest. With the awp I would be confident that my shots will count, with the scout I'll be confident that I will live long enough to make the shots count (because I'll be able to pop quicker shots and 'dodge' more bullets.). Not saying that I will always survive in that situation - I would just feel more confident :)

Also scout makes the ideal bhop and long jump weapon because of its speed :D

Sooooo basically... learn both. They are both excellent weapons.

PS: Don't jump out with awps, that's asking to be picked off mid-air...If anything do it with a scout, you'll be moving faster and less likely to be hit ;)
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