DA server give the people there money!!!!!

[McBastard]

hello im McBastard in the Da clan im admin in the 24/7 assault server(69.90.174.11:27015). the fact u have taken our ability to give money away is bringing in new faces however faster than that old faces are leaving, there are 3 assault servers 2 2 were the same and the DA server was the exception as people could get money easily, now i dont have to tell u that Ts normally win on assault, so what happens is the people that once liked to play as CT are going to T thus stacking the teams more than they allready are and then people stuck as CT start leaving. u have 3 servers that are 24/7 assault surely u can let one be different from the other 2? my main point is that our regulars liked the fact we could give money so doing this will not make the server a better server nor will it help your spawnpoint community

[Stitz34]

I agree with you totally. Assualt is defenatly a terrorist one sided map.

[messiah]

Ok, that's wierd I come here to talk about the problem and mc already did, damn. Well anyway, our server is losing some of the older players who have played on our server since the get-go. What is happening is the terrorists win the pistol round, then they get like 3K and everyone inside has aks and the cts have to get in with usp maybe if lucky a deagle. The cts are leaving the game making it 9 cts vs. 11 ts. Once we switch tem back they leave. It's quite sad people used to stay on the server all day now they maybe stay on for a few rounds or if they get lucky in the start they might stay till 10 rounds. People loved our server because when they couldn't afford a gun, we provided one. But this game isn't 1.6 you cant just start off with $800 and next round have $5000. At the most you get $3000. And that goes to the cts. If you could give us the money command back I'm sure we will atleast see some of the older players as for the rest oh well we tried.

[GreyRaven]

I'm a regular on the [DA] server, and I've got most of the Spawnpoint Servers in my favorites list, in fact, I preaty much play solely on Spawnpoint servers these days. It seems that the PHXX admins have removed the ability for the [DA] admins to give players money during the game. I can understand some reasoning behind this, such as the arguement that giveing money only promotes Nade spamming. However, in my time on the [DA] server, I've never seen it as a problem, as the [DA] admins, like McBastard, are very good about fairly enforcing the rules on their server, including no nade spamming.

The fact of the matter is, that [DA]'s 24/7 assault server, has a large number of regulars, all of whom enjoy playing there, and enjoy the admins giving out money. And I see no reason why that option should be taken away. Furthermore, though this is the Spawnpoint Community, the [DA] clan members, to my knowledge, pay for their server, thus I think they should have final say over the usage of commands like giving money.

If you scroll through the "Report an Incident" forum, you'll find an old post from me complaining about admin abuse on the [DA] server, which took place almost a year ago. As I have seen it, Spawnpoint has done an excellent job promoting a fun and friendly community of servers, by enforcing a set of rules and commands across all of their servers. This is a great way to build public image, and promote your server community. However, it only works if those within the community are happy with the way things are run. This issue with the [DA] server is trivial, but the principle is very important. In my opinion, PHXX needs to communicate with those who are paying for their servers, before arbitrarily altering admin commands or in-game parameters.

Communities are exactly such because of consistancy, a community of servers is consistant through name and management. But problems within the community can go from trivial to explosive very quickly, especially in a gaming community. This, at least, is my experience.

I would ask the PHXX admins to consider giving the [DA] admins back the ability to give money to players, and to create a forum or method by which to communicate with the owners of their servers, so that they can get feedback on Community issues, without it coming to a head in public forums such as this.

Thanks,
-GreyRaven-

[Klymax]

I agree with McBastard.

[Da-Catalyst]

Hi,I'mC@t@lyst in the Da clan im a admin in the 24/7 assault server(69.90.174.11:27015). You have taken our ability to give money away is bringing in new faces, this hashowever faster than that old faces are now leaving, there are 3 assault servers 2 2 were the same and the DA server was the exception as people could get money easily, now i dont have to tell you that Ts normally win on assault, so what happens is the people that once liked to play as CT are going to T thus stacking the teams more than they allready are and then people stuck as CT start leaving. u have 3 servers that are 24/7 assault surely you can let one be different from the other 2?Ourpoint is that our regulars liked the fact we could give money so doing this will not make the server a better server nor will it help your spawnpoint community. We simply want to keep making people want to come to our server and your spawnpoint community and have fun and a fair chance to win.

Thank you
Da C@T@lyst

[Raven]

Hi guys.

As you are aware i've started frequenting your server on a fairly regular basis even though i'm 4 or 5 hours ahead of you in time.

I understand that giving money used to be the "easy way" to even the game. However, the givecash command WAS being used way to often by certain admins at times.

We don't have it on UK servers now either (well the majority of us don't) however it's not stopped it being full at almost ALL times.

Perhaps if peeps started worrying less about K/D ratios and ranks and started concentrating on playing the game and trying to fulfill the objectives the CT's would win more rounds.

McB lets be honest you've played the game with me and there HAVE BEEN games where the CT's have owned round after round and win by a large margin.

I'm not sure if the givecash command has been removed from every admin (I haven't tried it on there yet) but the "powers that be" are in the process of re-vamping the admin structure at the moment.

I'm sure that your "complaints" will be taken on board and looked at.

Meantime, is there not a command to give weapons or armour instead??

See you on server soon.

Rob

[GreyRaven]

In response to Raven,

As I pointed out, the give money command is almost trivial. The real complaint here, at least I think, is that the modification was made without consulting the [DA] admins, who are the ones paying for the server.

I think you make a good point Raven, however the usage of the command itself shouldnt be the real issue here. The PHXX management needs to be able to communicate with their costumers, the ones paying for the servers, before altering them. And in this case, it seems that they did not communicate with [DA]'s admins at all. I know that I get frustrated with upper management when I come in to work one day and find certain resources or privilages have been altered suddenly, and unexpectedly.

Also, it is the right of those paying for a service to expect certain things, and then to complain, legitimatly or not,when those expectations are not met.

[Raven]

ORIGINAL: GreyRaven

As I pointed out, the give money command is almost trivial. The real complaint here, at least I think, is that the modification was made without consulting the [DA] admins, who are the ones paying for the server.

I think you make a good point Raven, however the usage of the command itself shouldnt be the real issue here. The PHXX management needs to be able to communicate with their costumers, the ones paying for the servers, before altering them. And in this case, it seems that they did not communicate with [DA]'s admins at all. I know that I get frustrated with upper management when I come in to work one day and find certain resources or privilages have been altered suddenly, and unexpectedly.

Also, it is the right of those paying for a service to expect certain things, and then to complain, legitimatly or not,when those expectations are not met.

Sorry mate you typed your first post as i was typing mine lol.

As you pay for the "privelige" i have to agree with you in principal here. My post was not meant to sound pedantic or offensive to anyone.

I'll go sit in the corner now

Rob

Edit Did Catalyst just copy and paste McB's thread starter LMAO

[cooper]

GreyRaven,
To my knowledge, no clan server sponsered by SpawnPoint has the clan pay for it. SpawnPoint does, or at least one of their partners does. The Da server is a sponsered SpawnPoint server so they must abide by ALL of their rules - including the money situation.

I will not lie, I used to give out money constantly. I used to be VERY bad about that (16k every few rounds) but then I realized that it was not my job to give them money, and that giving out money spawns dependancy upon the admins for EVERYTHING.

I also realize where you are coming from with the whole money thing. The server has its own way of doing things, just like every other server. NO TWO SERVERS ARE THE SAME. There is always one or two rules that set it apart from other serrvers which is why it has regulars. Without these differences, nobody would be a regular. They would go to various servers of the same map/type etc.

The admins on the Da server give out money a lot. Big deal - the regulars like it. The non-regulars might not like it, but they stay anyway because of the nice people. If they don't stay, they are more than welcome to go to other servers. McBastard has already mentioned that due to not being able to giving out money, the teams are now even more stacked than before. The server is also less full than it used to be. I've looked at the Da server info numerous times before and it is always close to full even though it has a large player max. If there is a reason that players come back to a server, the higher admins should not take it away. They should enforce that reason because everyone that plays that server enjoys it.

Edit: Raven - yeah except he added a sentence lol.

[Bob]

All good statements but what you guys haven't mentioned is that there's always a "bet ct all" or "bet t all". Now I know that if you lose your bet you lose all your money but that always help me get the money I need and can always be a choice

You guys may not believe this but last night when I was playing T, we were actually losing. The score was 11 - 2 for CT. There were no admins online that time and guess what helped me get the money. If you say that I waited until I got enough money then you're sadly wrong, if you say by betting then you win a million dollars

?‹ ? Bob

[McBastard]

From McBastard
I may have been wrong about someone paying for the server as a reasonably new member of DA i dont know how it works exactly anyway i guess i stand corrected.
the point is that with all the footsniping, vent watching, door camping and other skilless tactics the Ts can use to ensure victory i just think the map needs to be more even. Someone suggested giving guns which allthough as far as i know u cant do would work better than giving money, for instance if u could (with the exception of the opening round) have each player start with an M4/AK. Anyway ill let the powers that be decide

[rigormotis]

Hey all,
I'm rigormotis, a regular on the Da 24/7 Assault server (practically the only place I play). I'd have to agree that the map tends to be onsided in the T's favor and that giving away money often helps even the odds. I just played several rounds where all the T's just rushed, and we won about 6 rounds, each in under a minute usually. We were running at them with whatever weapons we wanted and they only had USP and the occasional SMG. Needless to say, the more the T's kept on winning, the more CT's just left, or joined spectators. Giving money would definitely have helped in this situation.

I think that the admins should continue to have the ability to give away money, it's not like it gives either team an advantage, especially on this map. If anything, it helps even the odds just a little.

[Labec]

I'll have someone review the money thing. For the record, no one pays for SpawnPoint services. SpawnPoint and its partners provide all servers, downloads, and admin privledges for free...