DWP Pricing and Point System

[EC-ToeTag]

DWP PricingI think it's called)
Please get rid of this.....$5000 for Kevlar and Helmet...cmon. Please take it off the Ghetto Gums server and return it to normal. Not one player enjoyed this feature.[&:]

Points:
How do they work....
I was 11-6 as KDR and my team was up 11-3...I am ranked 12th on this server and I was -8 points? Why does the team who's mission it is..(defuse or rescue) always seem to get a ton more points than the other? .....Even if the other was successful in their objective? Please explain...

thx

[Mr-Me-II]

If you kill a bunch of people ranked lower than you, you earn less points than you would killing a higher ranked player. Since you are ranked 12, you were likely killing lower ranked players, and they killing you. If you are rank 1, and you get killed by the last ranked player you will lost like 30 points or something. If you (as rank 1) kill the lowest ranked player, you would be lucky to get 1 point off the kill.

Different weapons give different points also, as far as I know.

Keeping a nice low rank is hard work because of this point system. I've gone 30-5 and still had -40+ points in my session when ranked 5.

[Raven]

The DWP should only be on until the first map change mate as the server had to be re-set following the update. If it's STILL on then please post here later and i'm sure someone will set it to off.

The points system is quite complex and i've gone over it before.

Basically it works as this : - You GAIN your vitcims points devided by your points x 5 x the weapon modifier.
Your victim loses the same amount of points!

So if you have 1500 points and your victim has 1000 and you kill him with a deagle you would gain 3 points and he'd lose 3 points
if he kills you though he'd gain 8 points and you'd lose 8!!

So as above --------> Kill good players withcrap guns and don't get killed by newbies

Also you get a fair few bonus points if you plant the bomb or defuse it or rescue a hostage

Rob

[Gunslinga]

Rather then starting a new thread, I figured I'd just ask in here since my question pertains to the Ghetto Gums server. Are there any admin spots open for that server? The reason I ask is that there is very rarely an admin in there, and there has been alot of tking and such going on because of the lack of an admin presence. I looked under the apply for admin and didn't see that server listed (perhaps I overlooked it). Anyway that is pretty much the only server I play in, and as a result I do spend a fair amount of time in there. So I would be more then happy of taking on that task.

[cooper]

This issue is about DWP and points, not admin. You'll need to start another thread in Source Sessions, plus email staff@spawnpoint.com and ask them.
Include:
Game name
server ip
steamid
spawnpoint forums username
your email address
and tell them why you would make a good admin.

Good luck!

[EC-ToeTag]

WOW....alright...thanks for the answers. Raven, you were right...it changed back after the next map change....

Thanks for the knowledge on how the point system works.....Raven...thx 4 the advice stay low and use "The Glock"

[EC-ToeTag]

OH ya....Mr_Me...

30-5 and -40 points....I do not agree with that at all....how is that right? After hearing that...I am not worried about rankings anymore. Anyway....our 1st ranked player has a .90 KDR....pffffttt

[Raven]

Toe Tag.

I know a player who used to play Dust and Dust 2 exclusively. He never had a K/D ratio much higher than 0.8 or so but was always one of the highest ranked players.

The reason for this was "objective" completion. You gain 10 bonus points for "planting" the bomb and a further bonus for it "exploding". You also get bonus points for defusing the bomb. He was VERY GOOD and completing the objectives instead of worrying about K/D ratios.

[cpnichol]

I quite like the points system, but it can be so annoying when after 5 rounds you've lost 60 points. I noticed I was almost in the top10 so started paying more attention to session and found the best way to gain points is to complete the objectives and survive the round, you don't even need a good kdr. After a while I gave up checking because I always join the losing team so gaining any points became really difficult even if I had a good kdr.

It would be nice if the points system recognised that getting a decent score on a team that loses every round is harder to acheive than a good score on a team that wins every round.

[EC-ToeTag]

Awesome....thx for the knowledge fella's....moral of the story...join the team with the objective....

oh...and try not to die!

[Raven]

Well i've put together a full explanation of how the scoring works together with weapon multipliers and objective bonuses.

I'll e-mail it to the Staff later and see if they can put it on the FAQ's page for everyone to see and read.

Rob

[XxXStaticXxX]

I wouldnt mind reading that point system faq. You guys did a good job on explaining why I vary so much in rank though. Ill go down 10 ranks, but then im playing with the people right around me so my rank drops again. lol.

Can you explain how bots fit into the system? Ive always wondered about that too.

[Raven]

They Don't!

You get no points nor lose any pointsfor killing or being killed by BOTS.

Also the stats don't start recording until there is a MINIMUM of 6 actual PLAYERS on the server.

Hope this clarifies everything.

Rob

[Regeneration]

I personally don't like DWP or +/- per kill or death Point Ranking, but i will definately co-op with them, i liked the old fashion versions with only normal pricing and +per kill Point Rankings.

I think i've just confused myself, anyways thank you for the info guys, it gave me a little more stuff to lean up against towards my argument.... bah...

[DeeP] Lt. Regeneration